Life and business strategist Tony Robbins says he operates from a simple premise—if a person shows up looking for your help, it means they want to change. And it’s on therapists, he explains, to help that change come about, no matter how difficult that road may be.

The idea that clients might not want to change as much as therapists want them to is a falsehood, Tony contends, a legacy of talk therapy’s psychoanalytic age. In this clip from his interview with Networker Editor Rich Simon, Tony explains why we need to “update the software.”

Rich Simon

Richard Simon, PhD, founded Psychotherapy Networker and served as the editor for more than 40 years. He received every major magazine industry honor, including the National Magazine Award. Rich passed away November 2020, and we honor his memory and contributions to the field every day.