VIDEO: Joan Borysenko on Sitting with Our Darkest Moments

Moving through a Place between "No Longer" and "Not Yet"

Joan Borysenko

What does it mean to be truly resilient? Using equal parts narrative and humor, psychologist, author, and biologist Joan Borysenko explains what the arc of transformation looks like, and means, for the clients who come to us during times of suffering.

According to Borysenko, suffering arises when we encounter interruptions to "life as usual." Like Virgil's Dante, she says, we encounter a type of purgatorio in our darkest moments, which also serve as periods of reflection. Here, she says, we reside in a place between "no longer" and "not yet."

Here, Borysenko explains what happens as we move through this transition stage, and what waits for us at the end of it.

Joan Borysenko, PhD, is a Harvard-trained cell biologist, licensed psychologist, and spiritual educator. A pioneer in mind/body medicine and psychoneuroimmunology, she’s president of Mind-Body Health Sciences, LLC and a New York Times bestselling author of 17 books.

"We all need purgatory time," Borysenko says, "in which we take time to reflect on our life." It's a rite of passage, she adds, on our way to a new, better place. At the end of our journey, she says, we arrive at our own version of paradiso. And even though we may not be the same people after our hardships, Borysenko adds, we're more enlightened, more resilient, and better able to weather whatever challenges may await us ahead. 


You might also enjoy our interview with Borysenko, "Food and Mood: What Every Therapist Needs to Know about Nutrition," in which she explains how depression or anxiety can sometimes be more connected to a client's diet and gut bacteria than to their relationships, or fears, or traumatic childhood. 

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Topic: Anxiety/Depression

Tags: Anxiety | Depression & Grief | post-traumatic stress disorder ptsd | transformation

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Sunday, February 25, 2018 4:35:36 PM | posted by Eduardo Pinzon
Dear Joan, I met you near New Glarus, WI, followed your lectures in the US., and have read several of your books. I live now in Bogotá, Colombia, and your Vide on Resilience is deeply inspiring. Congratulations, Eduardo

Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:59:57 AM | posted by Dr. Tom Zahn
Over the years, I have given talks on the subject of "The Spirituality of Depression", in contrast to clinical depression. I believe this embraces much of the content of Dr. Borysenko's point of view. As we learn more and more about the positive health issues of meditation, the subject here is .....the invitation to go much deeper within the question and think through our beliefs and the content of our own thoughts. I am a retired Psychologist, after 50 years specialties were NeuroPysychology and Jungian Psychotherapy. Thank you and "hang in there".....this all works. Dr. Tom Zahn

Saturday, May 6, 2017 10:14:06 PM | posted by Marcia
Love your humor!! Thank goodness that you use it so wisely.